Kit in 1/12 scale

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Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by AndrewS » Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:17 am

http://www.jkaerotech.com/custom.em?pid=851167
These are glow design but not hard to convert to Ep.
They use 0.2–0.25 glow engines.

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Re: Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by yorcram » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:10 am

You should also look up Gus Morsif. He has many 1/12th scale plans. Most are for glo but the design is simple and easy to convert to electric.
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Re: Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by retiredVTT » Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:30 pm

http://www.aircraft-world.com/prod_data ... ewulf.html

I wonder how close to 1/12 scale these are...33" wing...gotta love the weight..16 ozs..!

..big sale on, reduced to $40. each,

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Re: Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by AndrewS » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:55 pm

Same problem as the parkzone mustang... Too big.
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Re: Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by CF Av8or » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:22 pm

Actually, Bill and Andrew, these are not too big, in fact they are almost too small!

The full scale wingspan for a FW190 D-9 is 34 ft, 5-1/2" - so at 33" they are only very slightly under 3% less than scale. I would call this close enough to be acceptable.

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Re: Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by AndrewS » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:56 pm

Hi guys
Oops, Did my conversion wrong. Just a bit more than 3% small. Their Mig 3 is almost bang on, but the P51d is 4" too small.
It should be 37 but is only 33.

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Re: Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by retiredVTT » Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:11 am

http://www.allerc.com/hacker-model-mig- ... -4641.html

..this is a link to the Hacker Mig...(no sale on this one) ..where do they get THIS weight figure from....13ozs to 15ozs all up..!!

..these things will be rockets on 3S with 8" props...that's half the weight of my P40,

(I think I hacked your thread...sorry, should have started my own)

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Re: Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by AndrewS » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:48 am

It's ok Bill. Still about 1/12 scale kits so it matches up.
Although I guess the object is to have aircraft similar in performance flying against each other. So the Hacker planes wouldn't really be appropriate flying with the JKAerotech or Vic designed models.

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Re: Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by MarkL » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:20 am

I have the P51 version of the Hacker, also have a spare kit for sale I posted in for sale section week or two ago.
http://www.flitelab.com/Reviews/HackerP51DOverview.aspx

I can also order more of them in from my supplier if there us any interest for them.

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Re: Kit in 1/12 scale

Unread post by CF Av8or » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:37 am

I can see Andrew's point about the different performance of some of the lighter models. Of course, I think on the other hand that these models will suffer in terms of durability, so it is ultimately a trade-off.

I designed my models to be both easy to build, durable, and cheap. I could have chosen much lighter materials for my designs, but the durability in combat would have suffered, as would have the cost (and availability) if I went with a material like EPP. Then there is the complexity of hot-wire cutting and shaping foam - again, going against my mantra of cheap and simple for this class of combat.

There will always be compromises when deciding on a design of a model and any movement to favour one advantage will always lead to a degradation of another aspect.

Of course, when you go with a kit or an RTF instead of scratch-building, the ease of building and material availability become non-issues, but perhaps cost does.

All this to say that perhaps we should not be prejudice against any model entered in this class, so long as it meets the scale criteria and the max battery size. What do you guys think?

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