New regs from Transport Canada

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Re: New regs from Transport Canada

Unread post by JohnOSullivan » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:29 pm

Having Dal involved it is almost a given that they are doing it under Transport Canada SFOC permits and this is a very positive contribution to the important and positive contributions that Airborne Model Flying can make to society.

95% of the media hype is directed at what negative effects the "Drone Activity" is having on society.

People are totally ignoring the beneficial effects are generated by this rapidly expanding contribution Aerial Model surveying is making to society. Crop management optimisation, Fire and accident monitoring, Topographic surveying and monitoring of Infrastructure construction are only a fraction of how these developments of Aerial Model Use can benefit Society.
Rather than bemoan the negative aspects of these recent BS regulations have placed on our operations, we should be presenting the very positive contributions that these " drones" are making to advancing the development of society.

There will always be mindless morons who will jump on the bandwagon and jump on the easily available product and try to fly it without any consideration to the safety of others. This, I think, will stabilize and eventually fade.

We have more to gain by promoting the positive contributions of Aerial Model Aircraft Technology ( Note: I do not confine the argument to "Drones") than by bitching about the negative things.

Write to your MLA and MP about the positive aspects of this new and wonderful technology which can contribute tremendously to our quality of life.
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Re: New regs from Transport Canada

Unread post by MarkL » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:44 am

JohnF wrote:Here is an article that was recently published on CBC. I can understand the use of this technology but I am wondering on what kind of guide lines this company is using to use a "drone" to overfly his wild blue berry fields. I have no idea of where he stands as far as a commercial or private air field. The plane in the photos a fixed wing R/C airplane. I have printed this article off and plan on bringing it to the MAAC AGM at the end of this month.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scot ... -1.4054715
Research requires SFOC as it is non recreational use.
https://blog.flitelab.com/2015/01/17/ca ... r-dummies/

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Re: New regs from Transport Canada

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Re: New regs from Transport Canada

Unread post by JohnOSullivan » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:11 pm

Another Government Gem to Review
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications ... l=42&Ses=1

One of the most damaging effect of this regulation disaster is the fact that regular model aircraft are classified as UAVs.
Model aircraft flown under normal flying conditions ( within MAAC and outside MAAC) have been operating for decades without presenting any threat to full size aviation.
Why is it any different now?

All Model aircraft heavier than 250 gm will have to be registered and display name phone no and address of owner. Imagine the mindless volume of data which will have to be processed by the government beancounters. An impossible task.

The influx of Newbee multicopter fliers, many of whom have no knowledge of aerodynamic principles or consideration of the safety aspects of their model operation has endangered the public and full size aviation.
We need to focus on these people educate them on the danger of operating these models without consideration for others.

Whether you fly Multicopters or not this affects YOU.
MAAC has been coordinating with Transport Canada but in my opinion has not been forceful enough with establishing the vast differences between flying regular model aircraft and allowing them to be classified as UAVs

We are fortunate to have the MAAC AGM in Halifax this coming weekend which will present an opportunity to voice your opinion on the negative aspects of regulations on regular model flying.
Please attend and make your fears known.
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Re: New regs from Transport Canada

Unread post by retiredVTT » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:33 pm

JohnOSullivan wrote:Another Government Gem to Review
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications ... l=42&Ses=1

One of the most damaging effect of this regulation disaster is the fact that regular model aircraft are classified as UAVs.
Model aircraft flown under normal flying conditions ( within MAAC and outside MAAC) have been operating for decades without presenting any threat to full size aviation.
Why is it any different now?

All Model aircraft heavier than 250 gm will have to be registered and display name phone no and address of owner. Imagine the mindless volume of data which will have to be processed by the government beancounters. An impossible task.

The influx of Newbee multicopter fliers, many of whom have no knowledge of aerodynamic principles or consideration of the safety aspects of their model operation has endangered the public and full size aviation.
We need to focus on these people educate them on the danger of operating these models without consideration for others.

Whether you fly Multicopters or not this affects YOU.
MAAC has been coordinating with Transport Canada but in my opinion has not been forceful enough with establishing the vast differences between flying regular model aircraft and allowing them to be classified as UAVs

We are fortunate to have the MAAC AGM in Halifax this coming weekend which will present an opportunity to voice your opinion on the negative aspects of regulations on regular model flying.
Please attend and make your fears known.
I'm reading the section of the above noted document that has this title:
STUDY OF UNMANNED AIR VEHICLE REGULATIONS: AN INTERIM REPORT
..and you having several small numbers that refer you to the bottom of the document for a definition of a particular term. So where they mention a UAV they have the number (1). And when you refer to the definition for number (1) it says this:

[1] While there are many terms used to refer to what is most commonly called a “drone,” such as unmanned air or aerial vehicle (UAV) and unmanned aircraft system (UAS), this report uses the term unmanned air vehicle (UAV) throughout. In the Canadian Aviation Regulations (SOR/96-433), “unmanned air vehicle” means a power-driven aircraft, other than a model aircraft, that is designed to fly without a human operator on board.


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Re: New regs from Transport Canada

Unread post by MarkL » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:53 am

In regards to TC, UAV refers to non recreational use. Model refers to recreational.

Our blog post on the terms - https://blog.flitelab.com/2017/03/19/dr ... -are-they/

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Re: New regs from Transport Canada

Unread post by retiredVTT » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:29 am

MarkL wrote:In regards to TC, UAV refers to non recreational use. Model refers to recreational.

Our blog post on the terms - https://blog.flitelab.com/2017/03/19/dr ... -are-they/

Thanks Mark, for the clarification:

As MAAC members THIS paragraph from the regs helps clear this as well;

Application:
Recreational Purposes

3 (1) Subject to subsection (2), this Interim Order applies in respect of model aircraft having a total weight of more than 250 grams (0.55 pounds) but not more than 35 Kg (77.2 pounds).

(2) It does not apply to
a. unmanned air vehicles; and
b. model aircraft operated at events organized by the Model Aeronautics Association of Canada (MAAC) or at airfields located in a zone administered by MAAC or a MAAC club.



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